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TomTom oktober 2018

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  1. forum rang 6 pwijsneus 16 oktober 2018 16:54
    quote:

    Stille vennoot schreef op 16 oktober 2018 16:46:

    Hoe ziet zo'n biedingsrondje telematics eruit..
    alle geinteresseerden hebben alle cijfers gekregen
    Moeten dan een bod uitbrengen voor datum x
    de beste 3 gaan door of iets dergelijks ? krijgen de kans te verhogen...

    Als HG snelheid wilt dan kan je toch gewoon zeggen 1 november deadline, hoogste bod is lijdend, beste nrs 2 en 3 krijgen een extra kans en anders klaar
    hoeft toch allemaal geen kwartalen te duren ?
    In de conference call melde de CFO; There is strong interest; according to plan; additional information not later than the next quarter.

    edge.media-server.com/m6/p/2fyacqyz

    12:50 minuut.
  2. sjeroen 16 oktober 2018 16:54
    quote:

    BW2017 schreef op 16 oktober 2018 16:14:

    Pfff had vanmorgen nog veel vertrouwen dat het een leuke dag zou worden.
    Weer flink op me bek gegaan.
    Ik snap helemaal niks meer van die Micky Mouse beurs.

    Als ik het goed begrijp is TomTom nu op deze koers 1,45 miljard waard, dus als je uit zou gaan van 1miljard telematics dan is de rest nog maar 450 miljoen waard?

    Er vanuit gaande data telematics 6 euro p/a gaat opleveren en er 1 euro aan cash inzit tegen die tijd. Dan krijg je als koper geld toe. Ongelofelijk deze koers. En dit allemaal door Volvo? 50 miljoen minder omzet is toch geen 14 procent daling van de koers waard.
  3. [verwijderd] 16 oktober 2018 16:54
    quote:

    TomTom 25 schreef op 16 oktober 2018 16:51:

    [...]

    Men zal eerst in de boeken willen kijken, alvorens over te gaan op een bod.
    maar het is sinds de zomer gaande...dus dat is al gedaan, nu fase biedingen...?
  4. forum rang 4 andrejes 16 oktober 2018 16:54
    quote:

    TomTom 25 schreef op 16 oktober 2018 16:51:

    [...]

    Men zal eerst in de boeken willen kijken, alvorens over te gaan op een bod.
    Reken maar dat dit al gebeurt is, bod komt snel.
  5. [verwijderd] 16 oktober 2018 16:56
    quote:

    eduardo3105 schreef op 16 oktober 2018 16:51:

    TomTom NV's pitch to customers is simple: it's not Google. Yet as jittery as carmakers might be about letting the Alphabet Inc. unit into their vehicles, investors are wary that the Dutch mapmaker is struggling to keep pace with the Silicon Valley behemoth. They have good reason to be concerned.

    Once known for its satnavs, TomTom is competing to create the best high-definition maps for the nascent self-driving car industry. Autonomous vehicles need far more detailed data than humans because GPS is only accurate to within about 16 feet – the difference between driving down the sidewalk or the road.

    TomTom's announcement on Tuesday that it had lost Volvo Cars as a customer helped to send the shares down by as much as 15 percent. The Swedish carmaker instead plumped for Google's Android Auto system earlier this year. That follows a similar move by the Renault-Nissan-Mitsubishi Alliance last month.

    Carmakers may be wary about teaming up with the tech giants. They know what happened to cellphone-makers when Silicon Valley came calling, and don't want to become the makers of vehicles while Google develops all the software and reaps all the value. But TomTom's selling point only holds up if its product is as good as Google's. The recent customer losses suggest it might not be – and it lacks its U.S. rival's funds to improve it.

    Routemaster?
    TomTom has spent a growing proportion of sales on R&D to compete with Silicon Valley
    Note: 2018 is trailing 12M budget

    TomTom shares are down by almost 50 percent since 2015, when the 2.8-billion-euro ($3.2 billion) purchase of HERE by a group of carmakers stirred optimism that TomTom might become a takeover target too. Now, most of those with an interest in HD mapping have pursued other options.

    Apple Inc. and Google are developing their own. Robert Bosch GmbH, the world's biggest automotive supplier, has invested in HERE alongside Volkswagen AG, BMW AG, Intel Corp., Daimler AG, Continental AG and Pioneer Corp. Meanwhile, Softbank Group Corp., a major backer of self-driving technology, has invested in Mapbox Inc., and is likely to encourage portfolio companies including General Motors Co.’s Cruise unit to use the startup’s offering.

    A Blip On The Radar
    TomTom's actual R&D spend is little more than a rounding error for Apple or Google

    Have TomTom CEO Harold Goddijn and his co-founders, who between them own 44 percent of the company, missed the boat?

    The best moment to capitalize on the mapping business as an asset seems to have passed. Management is now finally taking some steps to placate shareholders: the company said last month it’s considering a sale of the telematics business, which lets companies monitor and manage fleets of vehicles. That could raise as much as one billion euros, according to UBS analysts.

    Less Than The Sum Of Its Parts
    TomTom trades at lower multiples than the sales prices for HERE and telematics firm Fleetmatics
    Note: both HERE and Fleetmatics were acquired in 2016

    The funds could be reinvested in the mapping business, returned to shareholders, or a combination of the two. That would placate shareholders for a while, and fund development of its HD maps – but it wouldn't resolve TomTom's fundamental problem: it lacks a deep-pocketed parent and needs to keep its customers locked in. Investors sitting in the back seat have every reason to question their navigators' sense of direction.
    www.bloomberg.com/view/articles/2018-...
    So true,

    Vorig jaar had je de hoofdprijs kunnen krijgen en nu ben je een lachertje geworden
    Mag nog blij zijn straks als ik na jaren mega risico met dit zooitje geen verlies maak.
  6. PentaGoNix 16 oktober 2018 17:01
    quote:

    Kaarthouder schreef op 16 oktober 2018 16:59:

    Bod is er al , kwestie van communiceren
    Tja, laat communicatie nou juist HET probleem zijn bij TT
  7. forum rang 6 Chiddix 16 oktober 2018 17:03
    quote:

    sjeroen schreef op 16 oktober 2018 16:54:

    [...]

    Er vanuit gaande data telematics 6 euro p/a gaat opleveren en er 1 euro aan cash inzit tegen die tijd. Dan krijg je als koper geld toe. Ongelofelijk deze koers. En dit allemaal door Volvo? 50 miljoen minder omzet is toch geen 14 procent daling van de koers waard.
    Als je zegt, Volvo was de laatste klant in TT zijn klantenbestand die kiest voor Android, heb je gelijk.
  8. [verwijderd] 16 oktober 2018 17:05
    quote:

    Kaarthouder schreef op 16 oktober 2018 17:04:

    “We moeten met de aandeelhouders gaan praten wat we daarmee gaan doen”, bericht telegraaf

    Dit verkondig je niet als er geen serieus bod ligt !

    Aha dat bedoel je. Ja dan geef je publiekelijk blijk van het feit dat je geen ideeen hebt of je eigenlijk zelf liever ook het geld op de spaarrekening will hebben als DGA.
  9. PentaGoNix 16 oktober 2018 17:06
    quote:

    apollo schreef op 16 oktober 2018 17:02:

    Sjeutje, incl. T2 midcap toch nog 1,7% in de +
    TT telt maar voor 2,15% mee in de weging, minimaal dus.
  10. forum rang 6 boem! 16 oktober 2018 17:07
    quote:

    eduardo3105 schreef op 16 oktober 2018 16:51:

    TomTom NV's pitch to customers is simple: it's not Google. Yet as jittery as carmakers might be about letting the Alphabet Inc. unit into their vehicles, investors are wary that the Dutch mapmaker is struggling to keep pace with the Silicon Valley behemoth. They have good reason to be concerned.

    Once known for its satnavs, TomTom is competing to create the best high-definition maps for the nascent self-driving car industry. Autonomous vehicles need far more detailed data than humans because GPS is only accurate to within about 16 feet – the difference between driving down the sidewalk or the road.

    TomTom's announcement on Tuesday that it had lost Volvo Cars as a customer helped to send the shares down by as much as 15 percent. The Swedish carmaker instead plumped for Google's Android Auto system earlier this year. That follows a similar move by the Renault-Nissan-Mitsubishi Alliance last month.

    Carmakers may be wary about teaming up with the tech giants. They know what happened to cellphone-makers when Silicon Valley came calling, and don't want to become the makers of vehicles while Google develops all the software and reaps all the value. But TomTom's selling point only holds up if its product is as good as Google's. The recent customer losses suggest it might not be – and it lacks its U.S. rival's funds to improve it.

    Routemaster?
    TomTom has spent a growing proportion of sales on R&D to compete with Silicon Valley
    Note: 2018 is trailing 12M budget

    TomTom shares are down by almost 50 percent since 2015, when the 2.8-billion-euro ($3.2 billion) purchase of HERE by a group of carmakers stirred optimism that TomTom might become a takeover target too. Now, most of those with an interest in HD mapping have pursued other options.

    Apple Inc. and Google are developing their own. Robert Bosch GmbH, the world's biggest automotive supplier, has invested in HERE alongside Volkswagen AG, BMW AG, Intel Corp., Daimler AG, Continental AG and Pioneer Corp. Meanwhile, Softbank Group Corp., a major backer of self-driving technology, has invested in Mapbox Inc., and is likely to encourage portfolio companies including General Motors Co.’s Cruise unit to use the startup’s offering.

    A Blip On The Radar
    TomTom's actual R&D spend is little more than a rounding error for Apple or Google

    Have TomTom CEO Harold Goddijn and his co-founders, who between them own 44 percent of the company, missed the boat?

    The best moment to capitalize on the mapping business as an asset seems to have passed. Management is now finally taking some steps to placate shareholders: the company said last month it’s considering a sale of the telematics business, which lets companies monitor and manage fleets of vehicles. That could raise as much as one billion euros, according to UBS analysts.

    Less Than The Sum Of Its Parts
    TomTom trades at lower multiples than the sales prices for HERE and telematics firm Fleetmatics
    Note: both HERE and Fleetmatics were acquired in 2016

    The funds could be reinvested in the mapping business, returned to shareholders, or a combination of the two. That would placate shareholders for a while, and fund development of its HD maps – but it wouldn't resolve TomTom's fundamental problem: it lacks a deep-pocketed parent and needs to keep its customers locked in. Investors sitting in the back seat have every reason to question their navigators' sense of direction.
    www.bloomberg.com/view/articles/2018-...
    Thanks voor plaatsen.

    Dit is hoe de markt denkt over Tomtom.
  11. [verwijderd] 16 oktober 2018 17:07
    Ja, ja, dat is een CEO van een beursgenoteerd bedrijf... Is na 1 zinnetje in het Engels in een voorbereid verhaal de draad al kwijt. Dat we daar ons geld aan toevertrouwd hebben zeg.
  12. forum rang 6 pwijsneus 16 oktober 2018 17:08
    quote:

    Kaarthouder schreef op 16 oktober 2018 17:04:

    “We moeten met de aandeelhouders gaan praten wat we daarmee gaan doen”, bericht telegraaf

    Dit verkondig je niet als er geen serieus bod ligt !

    Ja, we hoorde vandaag ook in de CC dat er aankomend kwartaal een update komt rondom sale Telematics.

    Ik kan mij vorig jaar nog herinneren dat er bij de Q1 cijfers de uitkomst van sale sports bekend zou worden gemaakt - is q3 2017 verteld - nooit meer wat van gehoord.
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